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March 19 - 31, 2007


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(Quotes from Ed in Red)


Sat, 31 Mar 2007


Cochin Tribe



Happened to hear about TT from a friend.
Got interested and want to start a Tribe.


Welcome !





Sat, 31 Mar 2007




Dear Sir,

I'm a long standing admirer / equity investor.

May I ask a few questions..?

1. Which chart patterns do you think are the most reliable?

2. I find value orientated fundamental analysis combined with technical to be the most rewarding ...variant perception themes can be as good as growth themes?


1. Chart patterns are not reliable. Traders are reliable.


2. I don't understand the question.


Thu, 29 Mar 2007




You're mentioned in the Street.





Thank you for the heads-up.

Tue, 27 Mar 2007


Pumps and Valves

Ed, is the following a fair comment:

People with k-nots don't feel feelings in the area of the knot. They don't know why dramas are happening, they just end up seeing the drama, and being angry or annoyed with it. They might start blaming other things / people for the drama.

Fred is the feelings pump. He tries to pump feelings to the CM. But in between there is a valve. This valve reflects the person's unwillingness to feel the feelings. This could be because they've been taught by life that the feelings are bad, or that you should not feel a certain way. They close the valve. But eventually this leaves them vulnerable. It leaves their shields down in a certain area, ultimately leading to possible massive expression of Fred feelings via a drama, causing the relief valve in the line to blow open.

Yes, that's one way to connect the pipes. 




TTP Helps Open the Valves


Clip: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/misc/rayshade/


Mon, 26 Mar 2007




Every morning I look into the non-existing future, hoping today is the day Ed posts a date certain for the Austin workshop.

Then suddenly last week, in the non-existing past, the flashing promise "Coming Soon" disappears altogether.

Nonplussed, I click the Workshop link and read the expired Reno announcement. I click Breathwork and go back to the future, August 4-6. I Google "Ed Seykota + new workshop." No joy.

I am overcome with feelings of loss. If I could have some reassurance that the Austin workshop is still on, I could have some surcease from these unwelcome feelings.

And if I had some ham, I could have some ham and eggs, if I had some eggs.

Thank you for your interest.


I am currently developing materials and writing a book.  Keep watching these pages for further information.





Clip: http://www.downtownmesa.com/


Mon, 26 Mar 2007


Being There

Hi Ed,

Last week I watch a rerun of the film 'Being There'. What a great film!

The lead character 'Chance', played by Peter Sellers seemed to live most of his life at the 'Zero Point'.

I think we would make the perfect trader.

In fact there are many great trading related quotes in the film:

"Let us not fear the inevitable chill and storms of autumn and winter, instead, let us anticipate the rapid growth of springtime, let us await the rewards of summer. As in a garden of the earth, let us learn to accept and appreciate the times when the trees are bare as well as the times when we pick the fruit"
And of course the last line in the film "Life is State of Mind."

In the closing scene, Chance walks on water.  It's fairly easy to do once you know where the "rocks" are.



Walking on Water


Clip: http://gymnasticscoaching.com/?cat=3

Sun, 25 Mar 2007


Chinese TTP Translation


I wonder if you have a link to the Chinese translation of TTP. Many Chinese abroad are very interesting in reading it.

Try this:



Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007


Ottawa Tribe

I am interested in starting up a Trading Tribe in Ottawa, Canada.



Welcome !





Fri, 23 Mar 2007

Moving Forward

Last Wednesday, I am speaking with my boss. I am telling him that the goals of [Company] are not in line with my career goals. He is trying to convince me that I have a lot of potential at the organization and the financial opportunities are excellent. I am unconvinced and tell him that I wish to resign on Friday. He reluctantly agrees.

Last Thursday, I am speaking with my girl friend. She is telling me how she misses having me in her life. She says that she misses our speaking, laughing, and sharing our lives together. She is telling me that she is scared that our friendship will not remain.


I  feel angry that she thinks of me as her friend. I feel frustrated that she thinks of me as her friend. I feel frustrated that she is unwilling to think of me as her boyfriend; she is unwilling to experience the emotions of feeling that I am ďthe one.Ē My reaction to her feelings is withdrawal. I am unwilling to feel close, unwilling to share with her. I feel that the relationship is unbalanced as a result of her unwillingness to experience her emotions. I feel less and less of a need to communicate and connect with her. This makes me feel confused about my feelings towards her.

On Friday, I collect my personal belongings. I say goodbye to my co-workers. My boss encourages me to keep in touch. I walk out the door and I feel overcome with the emotions of leaving an unsatisfying situation for the unknown. I am holding back my tears. I take the subway home and I start to cry. I feel sad leaving an organization where I have in the past been learning and achieving success. But, I remember how unsatisfying I am feeling working there. 


On Saturday, I wake up anxiously excited to concentrate all of my efforts on developing a trading system. I begin outlining a development plan, including all the goals I want to achieve.

Thank you for sharing your process.

Fri, 23 Mar 2007


Joy Point

I do not see this definition, on Glossary page. The term appears on the March FAQ page.

The Joy Point is an ecstatic and blissful state similar to the Zero Point senders experience after cathartic abreaction of an intense form. 


In the Rocks process, we arrest the development of the form before it goes to term. In this way, we can associate resources with the form.





is what remains

when the pain goes away.



Clip: http://www.spiritandflesh.com/cosmic-



Fri, 23 Mar 2007


Risk of Winning

Dear Ed,

I trade a trend following system since last 3 years with full discipline. I recently experienced a drawdown of over 40% but I took all the signals without any second guessing. After I had suffered 40% dip in my equity the market gapped open 3% below my entry price.

I was unable to put the position at that price since my risk parameter were not allowing me to put on that trade.


That "Unable" trade became the largest move of the year. Theoretically that trade would had covered all the losses and put me in profit.

As a experienced System Trader you must have also gone through such pains, I make a humble request to show some light on how to deal with such situations.

You might consider re-sizing your position to comply with your risk budget.




Staying Within Your Budget


is essential to building wealth,



Clip: http://floridamediator.blogspot.com/

Wed, 21 Mar 2007


No One To Play With

Ed Says: The Tribe is essential to the Trading Tribe Process. The DIM (Do It Myself) process and even one-on-one therapy with a skillful therapist has limitations. You might consider what is standing between you and forming a Tribe in your area and / or attending a Workshop. Some things work better
in community with others.

I have already considered.

What is standing between me and forming a Tribe in my area: lack of people interested in doing the work.


In other words, lack of "liquidity". Since I put my e-mail on the Tribe directory only three people have contacted. Only two were interested in Tribe work and yet they lived far away from my area. And so I encouraged them to form their own tribe in their area.

What is standing between me and attending a Workshop: money.

Whatever I am attending other communities such as church and a folklore dancing group. Incidentally I have found myself that I too put great emphasis on community living and sharing. So I am eager to participate in those which suit me best and 'are available in my area'. In a sense I agree with you that a not just some but a lot of things work better in community with others.

Thank you for sharing your process.



Sometimes We Can Feel Alone


in a big crowd.


Clip: http://www.flawijn.be/pix/index.php?


Wed, 21 Mar 2007



Drama is another form of medication typically, to mask sadness.

I find this remark to resonate with me. I donít medicate with alcohol in the way I used to; it looks like Drama has taken its place.

The over whelming feeling I have even during the Ďgood timesí is sadness. Like when youíre at a party and in a quiet moment you feel a certain wave of sadness but you canít put your finger on why.

I guess melancholy is the word that perhaps describes my underlying feeling most accurately.

I wonder why I am not prepared to feel this sadness fully till the K-not dissolves. Perhaps I enjoy it? Perhaps Iím scared of what lays the other side of an AHA?

My guess is a lack of confidence through losing money trading and feelings surroundings my parents divorce might point to the where Iíll find the K-nots.

Still TTP is no cure for unwillingness so I guess addressing this is the place to start.

For now, Iíll continue to enjoy the now till such times as I decide I want it to feel differently.

Many thanks for sharing your insight.

I look forward to reporting on trading progress at the end of the month.

Iíd like to ask whether have you taken the idea of TTP specifically in to areas of addiction?


It seems to work with day trading and as I see problems with people medicating through gambling, eating, not eating, drinking, illegal drugs, spending, I feel it could well be useful for many people.

Television programs over here in [Country] seem addicted to addiction as I suppose most viewers are addicts and itís what they want to see.

I have a vision of a small TV crew filming you working with a tribe of addicts and helping them dissolve k-nots through TTP. The results Iím sure would surpass many conventional approaches. TV would be the quickest way to spread the wonder of TTP (If you could stop the drugs firms and Ďprofessionalsí from steeling the reel of film).

The dynamics of chemical dependency mirror those for behavioral addiction.  In theory, TTP can work for alcoholics and drug addicts.


The tricky part is that chemical dependencies can scramble the brain.  Chemical addicts may not be able to muster the willingness to engage TTP. 


Some treatments for heroin-family addiction begin with replacement therapy.  Methadone in low regular doses avoids the sharp "spikes" that damage the brain.


We are seeing some reduction in alcohol and tobacco consumption in Tribes where the users are casual users and not hard addicts.




Sarek Takes Heart Medicine


The basis of addiction

is unwillingness to confront feelings.


Clip: http://members.shaw.ca/selek/


Wed, 21 Mar 2007




Please state the steps in the Rocks Process.

The TTP Rocks Process

Snapshot Process.

   Notice affects.

   Find an issue and identify a form.

Identify the Critical Incident.
   Intensify a snapshot form and freeze it.
   Recall the Critical Incident.

Re-experience the Incident through role-playing.
   Re-enact the Critical Incident and vivify the form.
   Accept the Medicinal Rock.

Review how the Medicinal Rock Works.
   Decide to keep it or surrender it.

Build a Resource Rock.

    Implement as forms.

Re-experiencing the Incident through role-playing.
   Forgive the medicinal rock.
   Accept the resource rock.

Review how the Resource Rock works.
   Fully accept the resource rock.

Check-out in character.

Release characters.

Check out.