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from Ed in Red)
Wed, 20 Jul 2005
Dear Chief Ed,
The recent Feeling Release piece by Tharp seems very much like it
has been inspired by TTP; or could it just be another co-incidence ?
Wishing you well,
to find ways
applying TTP ideas
a traditional therapeutic model.
20 Jul 2005
Shows Up in Mainstream,
well, Sort Of
Psychology and Trading
I thank you for your contribution. Please see the article from a
Mainstream therapist, below. I feel recognition when I see this and it
makes me smile.
if all of your problems were psychological problems? What if you
could get whatever you want just by eliminating the psychological
roadblocks to it? What if you didn’t understand any of this
and as a result you are stuck right where you are now, making very little
progress? Interested? Well read on.
following is just one of many examples of people getting stuck
psychologically and thinking it’s something else. Most
people who enter trading are good at problem solving. Quite
often they come from engineering backgrounds where they are trained at
problem solving. But what if the very act of trying to solve a
problem was what kept you stuck?
was an electrical engineer by trade. He was great at solving
problems until he got into trading. However, with trading he
found that he got really stuck in trading positions. He’d figure
out great systems and then get stuck trying to execute them.
And he was always wondering why. This became a new problem for him
to work on. But the more he worked on it, the more frustrated he
such frustration, I always recommend the feeling release exercise ...
Jim came to me, his initial requirement was to release the feeling of
frustration. He did that and felt a great relief. It
now felt like he could move on with his life.
I said, what if you just release the feelings that have to do with “trading
being a problem that you need to solve.”
The frustration was a knot in his solar plexus and a tightness in his
throat. He could relate to that as a feeling. But wanting
to solve a problem didn’t seem like a feeling.
response to this was ... "are you willing to just let it go?”
... “Now,” I repeated, “are you willing to let it go?”
I don’t think so,” said Jim.
then, are you willing to allow it to be there … to embrace it.”
not sure,” said Jim.
you rather have the feeling or would you rather be at peace,”
said Jim, “it feels different now. In fact, I think it’s
starting to disappear. Yes, I think it’s gone.”
if you are trying to figure out a problem you are going into the
past. You can’t deal with the present -- what the market is doing
-- because you are trying to deal with the past in figuring out the
you haven’t thought about all of these issues before, but I’m
recommending that you do now. Perhaps the trading process is much
more psychological than you ever thought.
its not about solving problems after all.
is a good example of the kind of think that can happen when you try to
convert TTP into one-on-one therapy, without a Tribe.
practitioner and patient typically set an implicit goal, namely to get the
patient's feelings to release and go away.
TTP, we do not aim to evict feelings. We look for the positive
intention of feelings and we aim to integrate the positive intentions of
therapist uses the label, "frustration," and enumerates feelings
to develop and explain this concept.
TTP we consider labels to be counterproductive in that they tend to
draw the sender out of his feelings and back into his mind. We use
physical forms as handles for feelings.
therapist uses manipulation, bordering on extortion, to motivate the
patient to release, as in: "would you rather have the feeling or be
TTP, we use the healing field of acknowledgment and relentless validation
that a Tribe can so profusely supply.
TTP we hold all feelings have positive intentions. We do not attempt
feeling-ectomies or offer false choices between the now feeling and
TTP, we encourage the sender to develop his feelings, and ride with them,
wherever they go. Upon integration, all feelings lead to the Zero
therapist normally expects to receive payment for his services, to
maintain a formal therapist / client relationship and to conceal his own
feelings and issues.
TTP, each member of the Trading Tribe trades turns being sender and
receiver. No money changes hands between senders and receivers.
therapist's patient says "Yes, I think it's gone,"
indicating he believes that (1) you can deal with feelings by thinking
about them and (2) getting rid of feelings constitutes success.
TTP, when someone successfully integrates his feelings, and reaches the
zero point, everyone in the Tribe can feel it.
traditional therapy, the therapist may lose a client if he gets better.
TTP, when a sender unties some k-nots, and re-integrates more feelings, he
becomes a better receiver.
traditional therapy, the patient expects to finish in exactly one
TTP, we go until the sender is complete.
patient to his office
some quality one-on-one
exercise may be useful
take to Tribe.
Tue, 19 Jul 2005
see FAQ, Jun
I read your recent FAQ updates and I am intrigued by the item concerning
the (alleged) Julian Robertson interview by Ron Insana.
The tone seems
especially apocalyptic and politically inflammatory for a mainstream news
report, so it makes me curious about the source. I dig a bit on the
internet and find a link that appears to be the interview in question
(from May 24, 2005).
say a few things in the interview that are quoted in the piece that the
FAQ reader submits to your site, but I judge the overall tone of the
interview and Robertson's message to be much different from the tone and
content of the piece that the reader submits to FAQ.
Interestingly (to me), I dig a bit further and find that the original
source of the text that the reader submits to FAQ is likely an article
written by someone named Al Martin. Apparently, Al wrote an article
"based on" the interview.
It is that
article that adds the content about the "Bush-Cheney Regime" and
several of the other more out of character quotes attributed to Robertson.
The link to
Martin's website, which I in no way endorse, is:
The content of
that site is spot on with what is in the article.
Amazing what 10 minutes on Google can yield.
I find all this mildly entertaining, and I thought you might as well,
since you point out several times on FAQ and elsewhere that, "People
often attribute quotes to me that I do not recall uttering." There is
another one for you, in case you are in any danger of being overly
accurately quoted lately ;)
Yours, with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek!
In my internet sleuthing, I find the Martin piece is borrowed by several
sites that seem to be hawking gold and silver bullion.
Perhaps it is
poetic justice that Martin's ramblings are employed by eager capitalists
as propaganda to presumably try to separate the common man from whatever
meager earnings he has before the "Bush-Cheney regime" gets it
job of digging in and exposing inaccuracies.
FAQ item no longer carries any attribution to Robertson.
Tue, 19 Jul 2005
Something interesting has happened to me recently. When I first visited
you in Incline Village - we were sitting on the couch and you practiced
something on me that looking back I realize was a form of TTP.
We sat there and
you are just sitting there, an arm's length away and you are just sitting
there, quietly just looking at me. You seem very empathetic, and very
attentive to whatever is going on with me. You give me no instruction, you
just sit there paying attention to me. I begin to experience an up-welling
of tears, and I have no idea where this is coming from. You tell me
"You have a lot of sadness," if I recall correctly.
Anyway, right now, I am having a similar issue. For the last several
months my right eye has been tearing constantly, as it always does, but
the right-side punctum, the funnel structure at the entrance of the tear
duct which drains the tears from my eyes is closed up and doesn't function
So the result is
my eye is tearing all the time, blocking my vision and bringing up
distressing feelings about getting old and things falling apart. I have
been to the doctor several times over the course of the last couple of
months and he is mystified.
Rounds of drops
to treat bacterial, viral and allergic causes are of no help. Twice the
doctor has reamed out the tear duct with all manner of probes, including a
diaper pin in one case. No help.
Now he wants to
insert silicone plugs into the punctum to try and get it to remember how
to stay open. I think I need a better doctor, and have deferred doing
anything about this till I get another opinion. My doctor is at a loss to
explain it or do anything about it other than to refer me to a plastic
surgeon to implant a prosthetic tear drainage system into my eye.
I think it is possible that this may be some sort of k-not induced
blockage, or a drama to get me to feel the feelings of getting old and
feeling physically vulnerable, but I have been doing TTP every fortnight
for the last year now and I have cleared several issues and this has
emerged. I don't know that that that is the answer.
Any insight you might provide would be appreciated.
tearing-up might be due to:
1. some physiological effect of punctum
2. some inner desire to tear up / release emotion.
3. something else.
If it has to do with feelings, then logic [such as finding a reason for
sadness] is likely to miss the mark.
it's really a k-not, then you are "not" likely to be able to
untie it logically.
TTP just goes with the feelings wherever they go.
that, your Tribe is essential in keeping you on track with your emotional
explorations, despite your tendencies to avoid uncomfortable feelings and
figure it out logically.
One self-diagnostic might be to ask yourself if you are willing to share
the depth of your tears with your Tribe and with your wife and if your
Tribe and wife are both supportive in facilitating you to do so.
If you are, indeed, able to have a full and deep emotional release with
all your significant others - to the point of joyously enjoying it - then
you are likely pretty much flat on any associating k-nots.
to close the punctum
offer relief from dry eyes.
the rare case
the punctum closes
subject may report
Tue, 19 Jul 2005
re FAQ, June
FYI, I don't think the comments that were attributed to Julian Robertson
are accurate. I've watched the tape and he comments on the housing bubble
and mentions Japan but never says anything about Bush or economic
majority of these comments can be traced to some gold and silver bugs who
were commenting on what Robertson said.
item on FAQ no longer carries any attribution to Robertson.
writer takes one of his speeches
a section on paranoia politics
uses it to recommend
Tue, 19 Jul 2005
Ed Says: I have about 15 people willing to attend
a London Workshop. I am looking for a critical mass of about 30.
I am willing to attend a London TTP Workshop.
am currently studying locations and dates.
a Workshop in Europe.
Tue, 19 Jul 2005
It now feels like a lifetime since I attended the May 05 workshop. From
May until the last week of June my account is up over 20% with bet sizes
still fixed at 2% of my account. I am in the zone, focused, calm, alert,
into my fitness and available to take opportunities as they arise. I have
given up all resistance to the markets, I enjoy going with the flow, I
enjoy the now. I do not look at my P/L, my short term results are
irrelevant. I am in a great space.
Our trading tribe is going well I am now the chief and really enjoy the
challenge. I often get stuck when sending and so I need to do more work in
this area. I have much to learn and am motivated by this.
My snapshot is progressing well. I am continually amazed at the resources
that have come my way recently in order to achieve it. People, books and
personal findings seem to appear at appropriate times to give me guidance,
inspiration and wisdom. I am “enjoying the now” and will be living
by the beach by the end of the year.
you for sharing your experience with others.
Day at the Office
Mon, 18 Jul 2005
Thank you very much for your book.
I like the chapter "NOW".
But what about back-testing in system trading?
What else back testing brings to us but illusion that we are able to use
market information from the past in the future,
knowing that both of them do not exist?
Don't you think back testing can be helpful for generating trader's
I am 3 years in trading, made a lot of back tests, currently trading my
own system but have some doubts about direction of my trading improving.
testing can help you experiment with various methods for trend
identification and risk management until you find some combinations that
suit your temperament.
back testing you do, and any subsequent trading you do, all occur in the
moment of now.
Mon, 18 Jul 2005
thank you for this great book. I received the book on Saturday. I started
it reading it. It is fascinating. I read it with English translation and
an foreign translation book. it is very compact written.
I feel an direct
effect. I became more quite balanced I get my brain more clear and
focusing. I got more power by swimming. Done a swimming exercise to day
2-km in a lake great feeling.
I put the
workshop with you for next year on my wish list. When a wish is on the
wish list, I forget the wish and after looking on the wish list a year
later 90% of the wishes has come true.
I am a future
trader. I and my wife trading futures the last 4 years with profit. In the
beginning we do it together and changing the power of the trading
Now every one is
trading his own money. My wife trade it in 5-10 min time frames and end of
day. I try to develop a trading style with an trend following approach.
But we still on the very beginning. so we feel us as student in trading.
Try to keep the capital. learn who we are. Learn listen to Fred.
All the best to you.
Sun, 17 Jul 2005
Intention, Elliot Wave
Do you believe that in order to be successful in trading currencies one
must ignore the intraday price movements and noise and follow the broader
Also, have you ever used Elliot Wave analysis in your own trading?
If not, why? If yes, why?
Finally, last night I was playing cards with some friends. I was not that
into the game and quickly found myself close to being wiped out.
noticed my thoughts about not caring if I won and taking the appropriate
actions to achieve victory.
After this, I
became intent upon winning and am employed basic trading rules that the
majority of us out there fail to utilize or reinforce in ourselves. I did
I used solid
I bet only when the odds were clearly in my favor.
If I played a hand and the odds changed, I folded. (Stop Loss)
If I did not have a hand I did not hold on and 'hope' for my cards to
Bet sizes were only increased when I did have a high percentage of
All the while I stayed patient, focused upon the outcome I intended for
myself, stuck to my rules, and not to my surprise, I won.
indeed equal results.
Wave is a subjective indicator, not a mechanical trading system. As
such, there is no way to back-test it or to employ it consistently.
Elliott Wave is also an arm dynamic, typically indicating the direction
toward Chicago or New York, useful for bidding farewell to trading equity.
hope you enjoy Chicago.
Sun, 17 Jul 2005
Wants a Blank
At least post a
blank page. It is 20 days now, since your last publication.
here for blank page
Fri, 15 Jul 2005
The [City] Tribe meets twice -- after a long pause. Meeting dates must fit
the schedule of one member whose work shifts vary.
Meeting time is
limited so we try to be efficient and sometimes sacrifice some
thoroughness doing the process. It is a trade-off that I consider very
workable. We are currently meeting approximately weekly.
We are now a close and cooperative tribe. In addition to doing check-ins
and hotseats, we are working together on various topics related to
studying technical analysis, trading systems, computer coding (C++),
gleaning and sharing info from the website on topics like Polarity,
re-integration, hardball, snapshot. We have the goal of learning to do all
the Tribe processes well.
Recently, both of our hotseat issues are not directly related to trading.
My issue has to do with my not working on/completing 4 unfinished books.
At the beginning I go into this extreme slouching posture with little
emotion, which I evaluate as "being spineless, melting,
disintegrating, being nothing" because I am not completing these
sadness later come up around missing out on a key part of my life purpose.
Receiver encourages me to feel all of the above and "like nothing, a
Later anger and
resentment comes up as I get in touch with hating to write, being sick of
editing and editing and editing, bored with it now, bitching that those
books should have already been published so I can move on, write something
else, write follow-up books, receive feedback from readers etc.
During the process, I see new insights into my feelings about my writing
and myself. No dramatic emotional fireworks, body pains or AHA's, but
useful information and intuition. And at this moment feel this and related
issues could be profitably revisited as a Hotseat at some point. In
addition, I have processed all the new thoughts and self-evaluations that
came up on the Hotseat with a technique I regularly use.
At a Tribe meeting 6 days later I hotseat my fear of long term trading,
taking a position and turning off the screen and walking away, keeping a
position on overnight. I have never done anything but very undisciplined,
unsuccessful and emotional day trading. (We both have the goal of being
long term trend followers and my partner actually has some experience
As soon as receiver suggests that I experience getting and taking a signal
and going long a soybean contract (and walking away) I feel this energy
start moving in my head, face and spine, I writhe around and double over
in my chair at some point with feelings of fear, anxiety and paralysis.
This fades and I
ask Receiver to amp it up by saying to me now that I have promised Ed and
the IVTT that I will take all signals --- and NOW I get a signal to go
long. Again the anxiety and paralysis, writhing, moaning, whimpering,
going fetal, etc. starts even more intensely.
I can't do it! I
can't pull the trigger! I say stuff like "I'm in a jam here, I'm a
liar and a coward now, I'm deluded to think I can trade, I can't learn to
f-ing trade, am now held in contempt by others in the tribe because I
can't keep my word", go through feelings of shame and wanting to
hide. Receiver does his job well and encourages and cheers all; has me
keep looking and scanning; keeps putting the scenario before me to trigger
me. All this stuff fades, comes back, fades, etc.
As we complete I see there is no shame in not taking a signal if you
don't know what you are doing - and I don't - yet; if you don't have a
trading system that is tested and proven - and I don't - yet. My fear and
anxiety and even paralysis is keeping me from destroying my trading
account. Receiver reminds me that creating and testing a trading system
will obviate a lot of this anxiety also.
I am increasingly grateful for the entire tribe
experience, for you and for all other tribe members. I do other techniques
that are beneficial and therapeutic but view the Trading Tribe, its
processes and the Tribe community as the most beneficial thing that I have
access to. Thank you Ed.
you for sharing your experience with others.
Can Help Re-Frame
act of pulling the trigger
just another activity
is sometimes appropriate.
Thu, 14 Jul 2005
Snapshot of a
This is a follow-up on my snapshot that I had written to the tribe about
in the past.
Major portions of the snapshot became reality, but, NOT in the manner I
expected. And, I found that very interesting.
In my snapshot I am looking at my software application while sitting in an
office-room that was an extension to a house. There is a water-fall
somewhere in the background.
getting approvals from my tribe members on my snapshot, I have said the
1. I do NOT need to get paid for the software, but, I need to be able to
complete it and show it to customers who would like it.
2. The software is being demo-ed on a laptop in a little office that is
built as an extension to a house.
3. There is a little water-fall somewhere in the background.
Each of the above elements became reality with some significant
1. I was hoping that whoever that would like it will pay for it
immediately. And, everyone who saw it made encouraging noises, but, needed
time to evaluate and buy/resell.
2. I thought of the house as my home, but, I never said that aloud. And,
the final demo was done in someone's ranch - this was entirely unplanned -
that fit the description in my snapshot.
3. There is a little water-fall in the background in this house where
the demo was done.
I realize NOW that it is extremely important to "communicate"
clearly of what I want.
The following summarizes my experience well:
You create much of your experience by the words you speak. When you
verbalize an idea, you send out energy telling yourself and universe of an
intention, and it is more likely to come to pass. Watch your words and
speak only of what you would want to have in your world.
you keep the truth in your words, your words keep coming true.
The Intention Snapshot
waterfall typically appears
Thu, 14 Jul 2005
in starting a Trading Tribe in Michigan.
Thu, 14 Jul 2005
After a very vigorous hot seat by a fellow tribe member who goes through a
lot of forms and motions, I get pumped up from cheering him out loud from
the bottom of my lungs. So I volunteer and find myself on the hot seat
next. I feel like I have lots of energy and want to work on what's the
feelings that lie beneath.
I start with asking myself what stands between me and my snapshot.
I had this
powerful snapshot while I was attending mass over the weekend, in which I
see myself as a marathon runner at the end of the race, entering the
stadium, with the crowds cheering. As I cross the finish line, I am dead
tired, absolutely exhausted. I drop down to kneel on the ground, and tears
come out as I feel that I've given it all, and I am leaving with no
regrets. All the hard work pays off, and it's all worthwhile. When I have
that image, I really feel it and tears start to drop. To persevere,
commit, give all I can is something that really moves me, because that
seems to be what I am missing the most.
For the last two hot seats, the group spontaneously decides to use a heavy
dose of drumming as a way to receive. And this time, I request to take the
experiment further to use drumming almost exclusively and reduce the
verbal communication to the least. I start feeling some buzzing around my
head as I start describing my snapshot, and I get into a rhythm of moving
my hands with the drums.
In fact, I am determined to keep moving my hands. I want to keep moving it
no matter what it takes. And so I just do that, and the drumming makes it
even more tempting. I keep moving my hands in all sorts of ways, sometimes
shaking them, sometimes as if I'm digging a hole, sometimes as if I'm
swimming freestyle, sometimes as if I'm throwing a disc, just constant
motion and not let it stop.
Sometimes I move
my feet too to go with the hands' movement. I feel like in a workout,
sweating my butt off. I feel like I'm pushing myself to see how far I can
go, keep saying to myself that I cannot quit, as if I'm the coach yelling
at the player to tell him to go even further no matter how tired he is. I
have images of Lance Armstrong, whom I've just read about his decisive
success at the first stage in the Alps where he greatly extends his lead
over his rivals, because he manages to go through the very brutal mountain
with relative ease while everyone else struggles. I just feel like I need
to relentlessly keep going with my sheer will and go farther than anyone,
and no one can beat me. If I feel tired, I know others must be even more
Yeah, the arms grow tired. Especially my left shoulder. It has been in
violent motion for so long that I can barely life it up. I keep trying to
keep it parallel to the floor, but it is REALLY painful to do so. It
reminds me of the pain of giving birth, even though I am a guy and have no
kids, not even married. It is so painful but I keep going at it.
thinking back now, I just read the FAQ earlier in the day in which you
say, "Willingness to experience feelings in the now transforms pain
into a passing AHA." (6/2/05) So I keep going at it. It's a REALLY
sharp pain on the left shoulder. I finally muster enough strength to just
raise my arm straight up, which ironically it's actually more comfortable
staying that way once I get it straight up.
The left arm starts feeling numb, but I just let it be and want to see how
that goes. Then it drops, but I quickly push it back so that it goes
straight up again. Surprisingly the entire numbness which is so
overwhelming a moment ago is gone.
I go over
countless cycles of struggling to get my arm up, breakthrough it, drops it
back to parallel (to the floor), lots of pain to hold it that way that I
have to twist my body to lessen the pain and then all over again. I just
feel like I need to get to the root of the pain, that I need to reach the
point where I can willingly accept the feeling of pain.
But in the end, the word "epic struggle" somehow keeps popping
up in my head. I am doing all these, but for what? Isn't what I am doing
now something that is unnatural to me, and really serves no real purpose.
Isn't it better just to be myself, just the way I like it? Even though I
can't quite accept it fully, I quiet down all my hands motions and return
to stillness and open my eyes.
Throughout the session, the receivers have been drumming all along, and
with minimal amount of words.
last two times where they report very encouraged about the using drums to
help the sender, this time they are not encouraged by my hot seat
particular, they reflect back to me that it feels like I'm testing them,
that everything I go through on the hot seat is scripted, that I'm trying
to will things to happen, that I analyze too much, that working my body
till it breaks or any other form of self-inflicted pain isn't TTP, and
that I may be using the physical pain to avoid feeling the real, truly
underlying emotional pain.
Since my snapshot and what I crave for most is about the feeling that
comes through perseverance and giving it all, I am not surprised that I
often find myself putting into these physical struggle on the hot seat /
breath work in order to feel like I'm working, believing that my intention
to overcome it can make it happen.
Am I just artificially creating feelings, particular the pain in my
shoulder? Or is it actually a judge that I need to fully experience in
order to move into deeper territory? Or am I just using TTP to extend my
drama? Is trying to figure out the feelings just another form of
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
work of the Tribe is to support you going wherever you go, including
analyzing things and testing the tribe.
extent to which a Tribe invalidates expressions, it prevents senders from
melting judgments and spilling k-nots.
I accept You
you do not accept me,
set us both free.
Thu, 14 Jul 2005
Fellow TT members and Chief Ed,
Since the breath workshop four days ago, in trading, I'm going with my
system and in personal life, I am also expressing my thoughts and feelings
without holding back. I am entering trades upon signal, working stops and
other price points with discipline.
I am profitable. I am also working on fully automating the system. I have
some backtest results now but I plan to send what I've committed to when
the work is complete to my satisfaction.
I feel better after the breath workshop, I feel much much better. It is a
good feeling of making friends with the old anxiety, anger, regret and
There have been uncanny coincidences in regards to my issues -
personal, personnel, relationship and social - since the workshop.
And all occurrences are what I had pictured. It is simply amazing.
I intend to stick with this - trading plan, expressing thoughts and
feelings etc the rest of my life!
you for sharing your experience with others.
and synchronicities seem to confirm the process of intention manifesting
Horns and JoAnn Hornes
on a blind date
find they have
things in common.
Wed, 13 Jul 2005
to attend IV TT
I read Market Wizards (MW) a few years ago. A couple of concepts in the
book are in my thoughts. Reading Trend Following I discover the concepts
of MW in my mind is where Jack’s interview of you is detailed. So I
devour the Trading Tribe web site, and Book, and commit to grow – I am
My life has been a DIM process. As I break the DIM mind-set, going with
the flow becomes real, I sense results and they feel good! I seek help
with my transformation from DIM to TTP, and from living in the past and
future, to living in the NOW.
I contact the [City] tribe without success. So I request admission into
the IV TT and wait for decision from you.
next Workshop may be in Europe.
Wed, 13 Jul 2005
about Lake Ratio
hope all is well. I have a quick question about the Lake Ratio: To derive
the Lake Ratio do you divide the cumulative water areas by the cumulative
earth area over the testing period?
I am using the
ratio to evaluate my system and want to make sure I understand it
correctly. I hope the breath work weekend is a success.
Best wishes and thanks for all your help.
Lake Ratio is a visual model to support the notion of drawdown.
ratio is a dimensionless quotient.
compute the Lake Ratio, divide area by area.
Risk Management Article
Tue, 12 Jul 2005
Five people express interest in coming together to work TTP. We meet
several times and our intention so far is to talk and we succeed at that.
we receive from talking about our feelings seems to be diminishing and
seems to be changing to a feeling of anxiety.
For me that
feeling is an unsettled stomach. I want to feel that more with our Tribe.
to be part of the natural evolution of a Tribe.
Tue, 12 Jul 2005
Respected Ed Sir,
I would like to start a tribe in New Delhi, India.
Please also do
guide me on how to invite other people to join the tribe. What should be
the criteria to allow others to join this tribe?
I just obtained The Trading Tribe book, ordered through my cousin in US,
and have to go through it.
How the tribe
can be run if I could not get any persons to join my tribe ?
Also please clarify whether I can allow my family members to join the
tribe or not if I don't get any other persons to join the tribe.
listing for your group appears on the Tribe Directory Page.
rest is up to you
Tue, 12 Jul 2005
Ed says: I do not not judge the events as good or
This is actually
something I've been pondering for quite a while now and you just bring it
to the surface. I keep hearing / reading from many people whom I greatly
respect (like you, sir) talk about how all events are merely neutral,
that it's our judgment that labels them good or bad.
And I can
understand that one can never know, for what seems to be the greatest
failure can turn out to be the greatest thing that has ever happened in
that non-existent future down the road.
But by our very nature we do have our own preference in how things are,
don't we? While you do not insist how this world "should"
operate, don't you have a preference, all else being equal, that you'd
prefer Event X over Event Y?
while I absolutely understand I can't control it, I'd still prefer the
flight to go on time than a delay. I prefer the baby to be born healthy
than with a defect. I prefer a breezy sunny day over a muggy rainy day.
Right, I can't make it sunny or rain, and I won't fret about it if it
turns out muggy, but all else being equal, I like it to be a breezy and
sunny day more than a muggy and rainy day.
Since having preference is a natural part in us, doesn't it then make
us view events as "better" or "worse", which is just
another form (maybe to a lesser extent, but still) of judging
"good" or "bad"?
Or are you at
the stage where you completely remove any preference and are totally
indifferent to everything? Can you please kindly share some of your
insights. Thanks Ed.
have conscious preferences for red or blue, healthy or sick, profit
and bad are judgments people add to their preferences.
judgments put preferences in k-nots and sometimes work to deliver events
that are the opposite of the preference.
order to materialize your preference for gain, you might consider taking
to your Tribe any judgments (right and wrong) you might have about loss.
trying to acquire super powers
hooking your tongue
to car battery
be an attempt to
Do not try this idea
Tue, 12 Jul 2005
Ed says: Putting things in tension helps manifest
Can you please elaborate on what do you mean by putting tension? For
example, I intend to find my right livelihood and live everyday fully. How
do I put tension to it? Thanks.
is a pulling force that produces extension. Pushing produces
acts on vibrating strings, elevator cables and bicycle chains.
is a sense of purpose that leads to action.
Nuts and Hooks
adjust his head tension.
a tension headache.