from Ed in Red)
Fri, 30 Jul
Intentions = Results
has good intentions, but intentions do not always translate to
results,'' Bush told thousands of supporters who repeatedly interrupted
his remarks with standing ovations. Over and over, Bush repeated a new
refrain: ''Results matter.''
= Results. Sometimes the intention = result is to get a standing
ovation by saying something, well, ovationary.
Intention = Ovation
Date: Thu, 29
[Name]'s dipole hot seat 2 nights ago was so powerful for me as a
am writing to you to report my experience of it ...
Cheers and thank you from all my heart for bringing us this powerful
I never cease to be amazed by the TTP process. Prior to our ... TTP
meeting this week ... our tribe leader, asked us to review the latest
pollinator report dated June 21,2004. I have been writing about
my thoughts and feelings every morning for the last couple of months.
Interestingly the whole idea of polarity, both in my relationship to
others and the world around me, has been coming up in my journals. So when
I read the essay about your discovery of the dipole between
feelings, it made total sense to me on a feeling level.
I assumed we would be trying this new variation of TTP on Tuesday evening
and I felt excited about trying it. [Name] reread the letter to the
group and talked a bit about his conversation with you, Ed, on this topic.
We then began with a hot seat.
Our first hot seat participant did excellent work in feeling his feelings
but we were unable to help him feel the dipole. [Name] then volunteered to
do a hot seat. I was sitting right next to him. [Name] is a very clear
sender and I immediately started to feel several of the feelings that he
was expressing. We all encouraged him and he was really going for it. I
was really feeling him and green-lighting him to feel what ever was coming
up for him along with the other tribe members.
[Name] almost immediately went into a contracted tense body position.
After several minutes of being with this particular set of feelings, his
entire demeanor changed and he went from a very contracted tense body
expression to an open expanded and stretching posture. One might say a polar
opposite bodily expression. He maintained this open set of feeling
expressions for a length of time and then returned to the other contracted
bodily expression and then went back to the open body posture again. As a
receiver I distinctly felt the difference in the two body expressions he
was sending. I don’t remember exactly how many times he shifted from one
to the other but at one point we asked him if he could bring the dipole
together. He got a puzzled look on his face and asked out loud, “How?”
We continued to encourage him to feel his feelings. He began to express
a subtle movement with his right hand which I encouraged him to continue
doing. He then switched to feeling his left hand. He started to go
back and forth between hands, feeling each separately with our
encouragement. It looked and felt to me like he was feeling two distinct
feelings in each hand. He brought them close together as if he were trying
to feel something between his hands. He reported to us later that he
was attempting the polarity process in an attempt to bring the
feelings together but that it didn’t work.
He then rubbed his hands on his thighs. As a receiver I felt some kind of
inner struggle that wanted to be resolved. Then out of nowhere he
raised his right hand and put it over his heart. Then he raised his
left hand and placed it over his right hand so that both hands now rested
over his heart. As soon as his left hand touched his right hand he made an
audible whimper that felt like a sigh of relief to me. His body became
noticeably more relaxed with an expression of contentment on his face. At
the moment his two hands touched his heart I felt a release in my own
of the tension in his body appeared to be gone and I also felt it leave my
body. It was a very special moment. [Name] sat in that position with his
hands over his heart for a long time. As I looked at him, with his eyes
still closed I noticed a few delicate tears gently roll down his right
cheek and fall onto his hands. He had obviously been moved by his
experience. I felt privileged and moved to be in the presence of such a
beautiful expression of what I would call peace and contentment. That is
what I felt he was sending and what I was receiving. I feel it now as I
take the time to recollect [Name]’s hot seat and my experience of his
Thank you Ed for bringing this potent process to the world.
synthesis tends to "come out of nowhere" once CM gives up trying
to manage it. Receivers provide the essential service of encouraging
the sender to amplify subtle involuntary movements (such as the right hand
the Sender Does
good receiver stays on task,
a sharp eye on the sender
notices subtle movements,
as in the right hand
Thu, 29 Jul
In response to the 7/6 query: where is Darvas?
After penning three books (“How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market”,
“Wall Street: The Other Las Vegas”, & “You Can Still Make It
in the Stock Market”) Nicholas Darvas died in 1979 and is buried in
Paris. No wonder you “haven’t seen him around the Lake lately.”
Best to you, Ed
someone does seem to re-emerge from Lake Tahoe.
cold, pristine water tends to preserve bodies, clothing, custom heavy
footwear and personal effects, for decades.
know of no case of someone buried in Paris, re-emerging in Tahoe,
although Darvas is famous for fancy footwork and riding trends.
Thu, 29 Jul
Tribe and the Polarity Process
We had our Tribe meeting on Tuesday night. My journal notes from
Wednesday morning are below.
I start with a feeling in my head that feels like a heavy liquid
sloshing around. Time passes and I begin to feel intense pressure in my
head and fingers. I intensify those feelings with the help of the tribe.
releases. I am encouraged to search for the dipole. I am in grade three.
I am walking up the stairs to go to class and I do not have my homework
done. I explore my feelings and they seem related to the form we just
developed. I catch glimpses of different experiences and I just go with
it and watch the show.
sticks. I am in class and we are having a spelling bee. I am a great
speller and very confident. We work on developing this feeling. I am
rising, opening, tingling. I am asked to combine the two and I pop back
to CM and let everyone know that I want to work on this feeling more.
great. There is lots of light and energy. We intensify this feeling more
and more. I am asked again to combine the two. I make an eager attempt
and quickly find that it is not happening. There is lots of CM as I try
to do both at once.
I am simply
unable to do it. I am frustrated and consider stopping several times. CM
says alternate the forms so I try alternating and increasing the pace.
However, the line between the two feelings remains clear.
notices my hands as I have one clenched. I clench it tighter and notice
the other one is relaxed. Again, there seems to be lots of CM. I decide
to use the polarity exercise where I place a form in each hand. I mix it
up a bit by switching the feelings back and forth in each hand at the
same time. I do this for quite some time. I try bringing my hands closer
together because CM says that is what is supposed to happen.
I hear a cheer
from a receiver saying "put your hands together". I feel led
to this point and my hands feel like they have the same charge and are
repelling each other. I stop. It is not happening. I lean back in my
chair, place my hands on my legs and breathe. Time passes. I suddenly
get a distinct feeling going across my chest from my armpit to the
middle of my chest. It is odd as it is there then gone. I think
"what the h---?"
I put my right
hand on my chest and I rub. The group encourages me to do that more. I
do and there is really nothing there. I rest the base of my palm in the
middle of my chest and my hand is spread out gently. Out of nowhere,
my left hand lands on top of my right hand. WHOOMPF!!!! (It is hard to
find a word to describe that sensation) That is it. An incredible
feeling overcomes me. Calmness defined. The other forms dissolve.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I open my eyes, pull my hands from chest and start to
say something but it is too soon. I go back. Rest my hands on my chest.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Tears of joy.
All the best,
the synthesis seems to come from out of nowhere.
synthesis, in the Polarity Process and in Half-a-Yoga, the receivers are
essential; they encourage any and all subtle indications that a new
composite form is trying to emerge.
attempts by to manage synthesis, tend to inhibit it.
receivers are the midwives to the emerging composite form.
Thu, 29 Jul 2004
(actually old drama)
I have two trading accounts, one is my investment account and the other a
"day-trading" account. It seems that I do really stupid
things in my day-trading account and would never do these type of trades
in my investment account. It seems I have a real urge to gamble or
more specifically lose money in real time.
I seem to lose
my discipline and perspective quite easily in the day-trading account. I
sometimes push this urge to gamble off on online poker or a casino,
but it seems to be an element of my trading that I can't seem to shake.
Your help or guidance is of course greatly appreciated.
might take your gambling urge to your Tribe and into TTP as an entry
you point out, "trying to shake" a habit does not work.
Fred (your experience pump) wants you to experience your urge and convert
it from an adversary to an ally on your emotional control panel.
The Gambling Habit
Wed, 28 Jul 2004
Could you please post a link to the details on the next seminar ...
Looking for date, location details.
next workshop: November 5, in Reno. See Workshop Page.
Wed, 28 Jul 2004
How to Start
Tribe in Oklahoma City
Please send information about how I can start a Trading Tribe in the
Oklahoma City area.
Tribe Directory, above.
Wed, 28 Jul 2004
email to Tribe Member)
Now that I am back and somewhat caught up, I will phone you later today
(hope you are there) to discuss the testing. We had a great trip and
returned de-stressed. I also learned a very powerful breathing technique
from my (Shao-lin Master) friend while in China, for developing chi (or
prana ... internally. I can teach this to you in detail if you wish, the
next time I see you.
I have recently tested my basic system on Trade Station and it looks quite
robust across various markets, but a problem with TS is that their data is
limited to a max. of 10 years and many contracts only have 1-2 years, plus
the are rolled in a very weird way /not the way you can actually trade, so
these results are not really that representative ... We need to use
accurate ... data going back 25-30 years and a C++ program which can also
test for proper sizing and risks.
So far, the most robust parameters are; buying a 40-day New High (initial
position) then a 120-day New High and finally a 270-day New High (if
reached.) The initial stop should be placed at a 70% retracement of the
previous 9-day range. A trailing stop is then placed at the 25-day New Low
(once it goes above the initial stop level) and this stays in place as the
exit for the duration of these long positions. Let's discuss this in more
detail via phone, such as the contract rolling method, sizing and various
I trust all is going very well for you these days.
seem to be doing a good job of specifying your system structure.
might consider coming up with a specific Bliss Function, a formula for
ranking performance metrics from different simulations with different
Bliss Function is essential to quantifying and optimizing performance.
whatever you think it is
Tue, 27 Jul 2004
Dear Mr. Seykota,
here is a picture I took of my dad meditating in a cave at Yosemite.
... He may be seeing something very different.
You Reach the Zero Point
Mon, 26 Jul 2004
Trading so Different?
I am curious to know why it is that most occupations do not require
the kind of introspection that trading requires.
Off hand, I
cannot think of another career that genuinely requires the kind of support
that TTP can apparently provide to willing participants.
Is it the
inherent and incessant uncertainty that a trader faces? I would think that
occupations in the military, police force or even on oil rigs carry a fair
amount of uncertainty and can get pretty "fluid" at times.
What is it about
trading that brings our personal demons to the fore unlike anything else I
can think of? In my own case, before I turned to trading I was in
corporate banking. I worked in a very competitive environment that was
made that much more difficult by considerable internal politics. Even so,
it was easier to deal with that environment than the doubts and demons
that trading often brings to the surface. Your thoughts on this matter
would be much appreciated.
As an aside, how is your book coming along? Any update?
does not attempt to provide answers to why questions.
suspends belief in the JCT trilogy: judgment, causality and time.
causality, why has little meaning.
and demons are typically person-specific, not career-specific; you can
likely run dramas and conjure your forms in any arena, from brigs to rigs.
Adversaries to Allies
Sun, 25 Jul 2004
More Buzzing Feeling
Recently, I had a very difficult experience with a woman friend that I
like a lot. I invited her to stay with me for a few weeks, and hopefully
we could get to know each other better.
From the day she
arrived, she constantly made fun of me and complained about everything
while she was visiting here (she is from a foreign country). "your
car is old, your office is old, your office is messy, it's so boring here,
etc. etc." I put up with it for a while, and then I put in a hard
stop when she made a racist comment about how all Korean men like to beat
She didn't like
it when I started to ask her about how she feels when she says demeaning
things to me and to other people (I never lost my cool, and stayed very
calm.) No one has ever questioned her like this before - usually guys are
throwing themselves at her feet and put up with all the shit she does, and
she treats them like dirt. She cried all night long, and then she changed
her plane ticket to go home ten days earlier than scheduled.
I took this issue into TTP, and I experienced the feelings that I had
about getting beatings during childhood, getting beatings by the market,
and getting "beatings" by women so-to-speak.
They all have
one thing in common, and that's this buzzing feeling I get in my legs.
This is a recurring feeling, and I just stayed with it for about an
hour-and-a-half during last week's meeting. The buzzing feeling sometimes
jumped up into my hands, then went back into my legs .. it then made me
want to grit my teeth, and then it went back into my legs .. my arms, my
hands, my neck .. it jumps to many places, but it always came back into my
legs. I do notice that the buzzing is not as strong as before, but it is
I've had this buzzing feeling for more than a year now, and I also don't
know if there is a relationship between "beatings as a child, beating
by the market, and beating my women". The only things directly in
common are the word "beating" and this buzzing feeling in my
legs. I want to hear your thoughts on this, and if you have any
suggestions regarding TTP, I appreciate it!
might try buzzing and beating as entry points for developing one of your
might use your feelings at the point of inviting a woman to stay with you
as an entry point for another form.
may be able to develop still more forms around your feelings of receiving
verbal / physical abuse.
the Half-a-Yoga process, we develop multiple forms and then synthesize
them experientially, simultaneously in the now.
tends to re-connect disenfranchised regions of our nervous systems and
re-integrate dissimilated nodes into the Fredian Network.
tends to precipitate release of tension, waves of insight, and results in
disinterest in re-conjuring the original, separate forms.
into a Buzzing Form
to Bee Here Now
Sun, 25 Jul 2004
Teeth While I Sleep
I have been grinding my teeth while I sleep for the last 20 years. I don't
know that I do it, but everyone says it's really loud. If I don't know I
do it because I am sleeping, and I don't know the feeling, how can I take
this into TTP? Or is there a different way of resolving this issue?
Most doctors I have seen don't know what to do about it except that they
suggest I wear a mouth guard (which is what I do now, lest I lose all of
my teeth one day.)
shows up as flat, short teeth. You might take grinding and the
associating facial expressions into TTP as an entry point.
you may be able to find other, more satisfying forms of nocturnal
Sun, 25 Jul 2004
FYI I am writing
a book about trading and have some questions about Richard Donchian that
you might be able to answer.
1. Is Donchian still alive? If so, do you have his contact information or
know how I might find and contact him?
2. Where and when did Donchian publish his moving average channel
concepts? I have been unable to find any book ever written by him.
What I am wondering is, did Keltner get his concepts from Donchian, or was
it the other way around?
Donchian's death date is in April, 1993.
might try contacting his Organizing Principle through the Under-Fred
Network - or check the link below.
I know of no book by Donchian. See Resources, above, for a summary
of Donchian's Trading Guides.
Fri, 23 Jul 2004
Can you please explain the interrelationship between "beliefs"
and "feelings" ?
Can beliefs be
used as a point of entry for self-exploration?
And how would
that affect our feelings, if at all?
feeling is a somatic (body) sensation, such as heat, pressure, texture,
taste, sadness, fear.
belief is a logical model such as "trends tend to persist."
comprise interrelating feelings, beliefs, postures, motions and
can use any element as an entry point to develop a form.
Half-a-Yoga process (extension of the Polarity Process) we develop forms
to term. Then, we experience them all simultaneously, in the
to occasion substantial release of tension, waves of insight and a
peaceful composite form. Subsequent attempts to conjure the original
forms tend to lead into the peaceful composite form.
Fri, 23 Jul 2004
NLP intrigues me. My reading of Charles Faulkner's comments about the TT
Process on the Pollinator's Page and the many comments you and your
readers have made about NLP brings a number of questions to my mind.
like Mr. Faulkner, love to create NLP models of behavior of successful
Would you be
willing to have him do that with you and your trading behavior? Has he
requested that he do so? Has he or any other NLP modeler done that? If so,
is it public? Has he done this with other successful traders? Any common
comparisons? Do you think that these models would be helpful to other
traders? to you? to the Trading Tribes? to traders in
I am not seeking a "magic bullet", just dry gunpowder!
generally amazes me with his uncanny ability to spot things that I do that
are both (1) important to my success and (2) outside my awareness.
contributes insight and inspiration to the development of TTP.
does not endorse people or commercial products. You can find out more about
Charles at the link, below.
pioneers methods for accelerating learning and decision-making. He works
with futures traders and focuses on the role of metaphor in communication
Charles' Books include of Metaphors of Identity, Submodalities: An
Inside View of Your Mind, Worlds Within a Word, The Essence of
Intuition, The Mythic Wheel of Life, Creating Irresistible
Influence with NLP, NLP In Action, NLP:The New Technology of
Achievement and Success Mastery with NLP.
and Text: http://nlpco.com/
Wed, 21 Jul 2004
I intend to start a trading tribe for Seattle and the surrounding suburbs.
are on the Directory Page.
"Your religion was written on tables of stone by
the iron finger of an angry God, lest you might forget it, The red man
could never remember nor comprehend it.
"Our religion is the traditions of our ancestors,
the dream of our old men, given them by the great Spirit, and the visions
of our sachems, and is written in the hearts of our people.
"Day and night cannot dwell together. The red man
has ever fled the approach of the white man, as the changing mists on the
mountainside flee before the blazing morning sun."
from Chief Seattle's 1854 Oration
and Text: http://www.ilhawaii.net/
Date: Wed, 21
Report on IV Tribe Visit
I had a great experience visiting the Incline Village Tribe. Everyone is
very genuine and you can feel the support from every person there. We
started the meeting with the tribal beating of drums. We do not have drums
at our tribe and I found this to be a very grounding experience. A clear
rhythm developed and the drum rhythm finished at the end of its trend.
Then came the check in. Everyone talked about what has been going on and
how they feel right now. After the check in Ed asked if anyone wanted to
work. Two people volunteered to work this particular night.
We worked with the polarity process this meeting. A sender was asked what
the situation is surrounding their drama. Ed asked just enough information
to get his bearings about the situation. Ed then asked very insightful
questions for clarity about the k-nots in the drama.
In my opinion
it takes a lot of skill to listen for what is important about the drama.
He then asked if the sender would like to show us what it looks like to
feel that way about his situation. The sender agreed to show us this form
and things started to get quite interesting.
Ed seems to try
new cutting edge material at the IV tribe meetings. What happened next
was amazing. The form took shape and the sender really got into the form.
After this form took shape and exhausted itself, Ed asked about a
different part of the drama. He asked what it feels like to be at the end
or the beginning of the drama. It could have been the end, middle, or
beginning. In my opinion the order is not important it is just what Ed
made of it.
The sender was
then asked to show us this form from a different part of the drama. The
sender agreed and a new form developed. After this form took shape and
exhausted itself Ed asked about a different part of the drama. This form
then took shape and exhausted itself. That is right, if you have been
counting that is three forms for one issue. Ed then asked for the
sender to show us the first form and it took place and ran its course.
Then Ed asked to see the second and third forms. The same thing happened,
the forms appeared and ran their course.
Now with all of these forms clearly defined and shown to the tribe, the
sender was asked what all of the forms look like at the same time. This
process took a while as the sender reconciled within their body the
emotions that are attached to the various forms. Trying to use a previous
form with another then adding the third is a way to get started and did
seem to help. However, the reconciled form is normally completely
different from the originating forms.
We ended up having three people work at this meeting. There was a
complete release of the drama by the sender. The issue is no longer a
big deal and the sender now clearly recognizes where they get into the
drama, how it feels during different parts of the drama and now will no
longer entertain the drama
Ed explained that we realize the feeling is something we really do want to
experience. We do really want to bring back our ability to experience it.
On one occasion a sender was asked if he liked the present feelings a form
provided and the sender said “no”. Ed ... asked if the sender would
get into the form again and really feel it. The form needs to be accepted
to allow it to be an ally.
During the check out for one of the senders we found out that through
the process of receiving, one tribe member was freed by what the other was
sending. It is a very powerful experience to witness the sender get
help with an issue and a receiver get an AHA with the sender. The sender
and the receiver gained considerable freedom and with that freedom they
get power. One more important detail that was brought up was how fast
change can be. Once a feeling is honored the issue disappears not only for
the sender but also for everyone that was involved in the drama. The
other people in the drama do not need to be at a tribe meeting for the
problem “drama” to vanish. Pow, the universe turns its gears and the
drama is gone in a flash.
I am impressed with the amount of support the Incline Village Tribe
members give to the person sending. The sender is given just the right
amount of support and urging to let the sender stay out of their conscious
have been together for a long time. As an example, at one point a sender
was having a hard time getting into a feeling, as soon as a tribe member
realized this was the problem they intentionally provoked the sender and
immediately the sender was out of their conscious mind and went into Fred.
Our tribe is run in the same spirit as the IV tribe. It was great to see
first hand what the IV tribe is like. Thank you IV tribe for allowing me
to participate in your tribe meeting. I wish all of you the best of
everything and am glad that I got to experience the atmosphere at your
P.S. My wife got the brownie out of my white shirt. [stain from rolling
into a truant brownie during a process]
Wed, 21 Jul 2004
I'm seeking the membership in your Tribe (as this is the one closest to my
home). For me it's an opportunity to establish working relationship with
the group of people with who I can share love for freedom, personal
development, psychological thinking. TTP attracts me because it's so
practical. I know I need further changes in myself make possible and I
know I need right environment for it. I believe I can add to your tribe
with my positive experiences of improving and balancing myself. And your
Tribe can help me bridge a major interval in my personal development.
Attached, please, find the required papers: the resume, on trading and on
Please, forgive my errors in English. My first language is Russian.
Thank you for your consideration, in friendship,
On Fred and CM
Fred has inbuilt (genetically?) reactions (you touch something hot - FRED
moves you away from it) and learnt from another FRED reactions = programs
(a baby fells down and gets hurt - looks at the parent/adult next to him -
perceives fear - starts crying. Now he learned to cry every time he's
hurt. It could be a different reaction if the adult reacts differently,
for example anger.)
Your example with flowers and bees: FREDs experience is
flowers-bee-pain-fear-crying. Learned reaction from FRED to flowers - fear
on emotional level, crying on the level of action. Learned logic about
flowers - someone shows affection by bringing flowers. Now, you have a
clash of two programs: 1)"be afraid of flowers" and
What you call PW
here could be an expression of confusion of FRED - he cannot express
programmed fear because of the "welcoming" program, he cannot
enjoy affection of the flower bringer because of the
"flower-fear" program. That is, PW is a buffer between two
clashing programs / feelings. Instead of running away in tears from the
person who brought the flowers, or embracing this person with smiles, FRED
turns you red and itchy and makes you talk with the person about last
night's TV show.
Now, here are your paired feelings - the dipole - the fear of being hurt
by the hidden-in-the-flower bee and the enjoyment of the beauty of the
flowers. There would be no drama if it would be for the fear only: simply
avoid flowers and people with flowers. Or for the joy only: just put
flowers around wherever you can. That's how FRED creates drama: he finds
another FRED who enjoys flowers for him, brings him in - and now he can do
the running part.
"CM knows that if a rabbit goes behind a tree and does not come back
out, then it must still be there."
In one of David Icke' books I've read a story about a hypnotist
entertaining a group of people. At the end of the session he commanded the
person who he hypnotized (let's call him X) not to see his daughter after
he'll be woken up. When X was waken up he, indeed, couldn't see his
daughter who was in the same room with him! Then the hypnotist
positioned himself behind the daughter's back, took out his watch and
asked X if he can tell what time is it on the watch. X told him the time -
he saw the watch through his daughter's body, which didn't exist for him!
The process of thought might as well belong to FRED mostly. I would use
the same explanation as you use saying that the speech belongs to FRED.
That leaves me with the question: what is CONSCIOUS Mind? Not that I need
the answer right away.
Whatever logic I may exercise describing the FRED/CM model I know that the
PROCESS is more important. It either works or it doesn't. It sounds like
your tribe is in the working process.
For myself I've verified and practiced some of the things you are writing
That one needs a third party to allow the restricted emotional flow to
That "should', judgment, storytelling and settle drama agreements
don't help in balancing FRED/CM relationship and getting reed of dramas;
That one needs "provocations" or increased pressure to have more
new feelings come out of FRED. It can be also a different variety of
people with different experiences and beings that would intensify the
process. Like the pollinators - the bigger the flow of people (given they
share TTP) the stronger the flow of TTP itself.
Keeping attention in the present - it's a good tool to work with knots.
Nonjudgmental intentional presence of attention reconciles the opposing
feelings/thoughts and brings one freedom and unity.
The hardball process seems very attractive to me.
The law of transfer: that's true, FRED communicate pains by giving it to
I was born in Moscow, Russia, in [year].
I graduated from [University] ... with a Diploma in geology, orientation
in paleontology (I'm not sure how to translate it in American evaluating
system). I worked in an oil research institute in [City] as a
paleontologist until my child was born in 1983. I've never got back into
the field of geology or paleontology again.
Main interests: art (theater, dance, graphic art), applied psychology and
esoteric psychology (possibilities of human evolution).
In [years] at the University I attended theatrical group and acting
In [years] I studied, practiced and taught Indian Classical Dance. This
includes three-year study at ... In [years] I worked in a small ceramic
In [year] I joined a ... School based on the Gurdjiev / Ouspensky system
(the Fellowship of Friends) ... Since then I've been having mostly office
jobs for the School, for a winery, for a psychiatrist, and also some labor
jobs (gardening and ceramic studio').
... My husband introduced me to trading about 3 years ago. At first
I was not interested, I was there to absorb his feelings about his trades
and reactions to the events happening in his trading, and to support his
growth through the process of trading.
Things have changed towards the end of the last year. Some kind of crises
that has been cooking for some time already came to its peak when I had to
find out the direction where to move next. I had a strong understanding
that at this point of my life I had to learn to make money, that money in
America makes money and that trading is a perfect tool for it. And that
now I'm willing to study and master this tool. I enjoyed "Money and
the Meaning of Life" by J. Needleman a lot. "The Market
Wizards" was a delight to read; that's how I came across your name.
For a few months I'm managing my tiny account now.
I understand that my trading experience is very small and I hope my
experience in the practical studies of how parts of myself operate and how
we can use this study to evolve and improve our livelihood could be found
useful in your Tribe.
SYSTEM: riding a wave.
THE END OF A TRADING DAY I'M LOOKING FOR BREAKOUTS OF STOCKS PRICED
BETWEEN $2 AND $20.
I go through the list to see which stocks are up-trending for the last 3
months and how their 5-, 1-year, 6- and 3-months daily charts look like. I
choose stocks that trend well and that came out of a consolidation zone
and started an uptrend about 3-6 months ago.
look for a breakout on a higher volume than the stock's average volume and
the price movement for the day of breakout that doesn't seem too extreme
for the stock.
read about the companies, trying to understand what kind of product they
offer. Lately I paid attention to companies that work in communications,
networking, Internet and computer related svcs and products,
nanotechnology and drugs research.
the stocks I owned were [symbols].
evaluate charts visually, without applying any math.
day after the breakout I watch how the selected stocks open. I look for
those which open up and continue to grow from the very start of the day. I
buy a stock that shows a rapid growth.
I buy in I watch the close price for the day. I'm drawing a supporting
line at the closes of the days and watch that the price wouldn't close
below that line. If it closes below the support line, I watch how the
stock opens the next day and sell it if it goes lower.
studying technical analysis to see how I can add to my understanding of
look at charts in the candlesticks style and I'm studying the Japanese
candlesticks patterns. I'm attracted to charts as a visual 2-dimentional
reflection of the price movements.
far I didn't try to short yet.
fairly easy to hide a watch and still tell what time it is - it's always
exactly right now.
describe your system as "riding a wave" and then discuss entries
and exits - and little about riding the wave.
are now on the wait list.
Important Part in the Middle
Catching a Wave and
off the Board
Riding the Wave
Wed, 21 Jul 2004
They Miss the
Hi Ed !
Here, FYI, is the latest and greatest in publicly available testing
software. Though there are lots of bells and whistles, they still seem to
miss the big ringing Liberty Bell --- instrument screening.
Not to mention
no community, no commitments, no emotional clarity.
Trading Tribe Growth Engine includes both silicon-base (computers) and
carbon-base (hearts) computing .
Wed, 21 Jul 2004
I am experiencing a large draw down and the feeling of embarrassment along
with it. I have still been reading the Tribe web pages but was not able to
write this until now.
My wife and I are expecting our first child to be born any day now at the
same time my workplace of 11 years is now so unstable, that any day, there
could be more layoffs. I have already made it through about 10 rounds of
job cuts in the last few years. I was hoping to get my trading going so I
would be ready for a possible layoff.
I think I panicked a little and pushed to hard on some trades that quickly
reversed on me. I would like to correct this feeling so it does not
affect my trading any further. Some wise words from my teacher would be
On another note: What do you think about having a Workshop on the East
Coast? We could have our Tribe Workshop on a real Indian Tribe
reservation! Well ... they just happen to have a very nice casino also. I
could help set it up after I am settled with our new baby?
"correct" your feeling of embarrassment, you might try accepting
it, celebrating it, and allowing it to transform from an adversary to an
ally on your emotional control panel.
long as you make your feelings wrong, you keep them in a k-not.
you get stuck, you might also include the stuck-ness into your form.
terms of somatic sensations
helps Fred stay in touch with CM